Comments on: MIR: Whatley on Wednesday: Vodafone’s MusicStation http://whatleydude.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation/ this is my happy place Tue, 15 May 2012 11:21:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Adam M-W http://whatleydude.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation/comment-page-1/#comment-6213 Adam M-W Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:16:59 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation.html#comment-6213 Or from a website such as: http://myforum.lasyk.net/showthread.php?t=38052 What annoys me is the extent that MusicStation goes to ensure that you install it in the correct, un-modified way. Trying to get this to work, I've tried almost every trick like changing the JAR file to remove the certificates, downloading and installing manually, etc. but still can't get it to work on my firmware (Nokia vanilla v20 N95 8GB). Oh well, I guess I'll just have to use Limewire on my mobile if Vodafone are going to be spoil sports. Or from a website such as: http://myforum.lasyk.net/showthread.php?t=38052

What annoys me is the extent that MusicStation goes to ensure that you install it in the correct, un-modified way. Trying to get this to work, I’ve tried almost every trick like changing the JAR file to remove the certificates, downloading and installing manually, etc. but still can’t get it to work on my firmware (Nokia vanilla v20 N95 8GB).

Oh well, I guess I’ll just have to use Limewire on my mobile if Vodafone are going to be spoil sports.

]]> By: James Whatley http://whatleydude.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation/comment-page-1/#comment-1585 James Whatley Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:43:22 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation.html#comment-1585 @Aidan Hirst - Great idea! I'll just go and download them from Vodafone's power user friendly website... @Aidan Hirst – Great idea! I’ll just go and download them from Vodafone’s power user friendly website…

]]> By: Adrian Hirst http://whatleydude.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation/comment-page-1/#comment-1584 Adrian Hirst Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:34:49 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation.html#comment-1584 Could we not just get a copy of the certificates somehow and install them? Could we not just get a copy of the certificates somehow and install them?

]]> By: James Whatley http://whatleydude.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation/comment-page-1/#comment-1583 James Whatley Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:44:32 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation.html#comment-1583 @Simon - from the sounds of it you need to upgrade your firmware... But then again if you do that you won't be able to use MusicStation... Round and round we go! @Simon – from the sounds of it you need to upgrade your firmware… But then again if you do that you won’t be able to use MusicStation…

Round and round we go!

]]> By: simon http://whatleydude.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation/comment-page-1/#comment-1582 simon Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:38:16 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation.html#comment-1582 I am going un-install it. when my n95 rings it just cuts the music and turns the application off. when i try to go online it says i have too many connections so i cant surf and listen to music at the same time. or read a delivered text because then the application cuts off.... its a great idea and if it worked would be worth the money, but along with the tracks it is continually saying is loading and then never does!! I am going un-install it. when my n95 rings it just cuts the music and turns the application off. when i try to go online it says i have too many connections so i cant surf and listen to music at the same time. or read a delivered text because then the application cuts off…. its a great idea and if it worked would be worth the money, but along with the tracks it is continually saying is loading and then never does!!

]]> By: James Whatley http://whatleydude.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation/comment-page-1/#comment-1581 James Whatley Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:18:27 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation.html#comment-1581 @Mike - I can easily fix that for you. Although I'm not sure if you'd lose your X-Series apps. S'up to you really. With all respect to Vodafone I wouldn't hold my breath for the V20 variant of their firmware. Same with the other networks. I'm really glad Terence has posted again, he's a great guy and it's nice to get the story from the other side of the coin as it were. I would invest in an N95 8GB if a) It was an 'investment' ;) and if b) My 8GB micro SD card hadn't just turned up. :) I see the point Terence is making - but again, the only issue I have with this argument is that some independent stores would happily sell you/me a generic, Nokia branded N95 on a Vodafone Contract without a second thought. What happens then? I can understand VF making sure that their software/applications won't work on competitor variants - but Nokia's own in-house generic software? Approved by Nokia themselves? Hmmmm... For some reason I am reminded of when the N95 was first launched and all the big hoo-hah about VF (and T-Mobile too if I remember rightly) 'crippling' their handsets by removing the Internet Telephony settings... @Mike – I can easily fix that for you. Although I’m not sure if you’d lose your X-Series apps.
S’up to you really.

With all respect to Vodafone I wouldn’t hold my breath for the V20 variant of their firmware. Same with the other networks.
I’m really glad Terence has posted again, he’s a great guy and it’s nice to get the story from the other side of the coin as it were.
I would invest in an N95 8GB if a) It was an ‘investment’ ;) and if b) My 8GB micro SD card hadn’t just turned up. :)

I see the point Terence is making – but again, the only issue I have with this argument is that some independent stores would happily sell you/me a generic, Nokia branded N95 on a Vodafone Contract without a second thought. What happens then?

I can understand VF making sure that their software/applications won’t work on competitor variants – but Nokia’s own in-house generic software? Approved by Nokia themselves?

Hmmmm…

For some reason I am reminded of when the N95 was first launched and all the big hoo-hah about VF (and T-Mobile too if I remember rightly) ‘crippling’ their handsets by removing the Internet Telephony settings…

]]> By: SE fanboy http://whatleydude.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation/comment-page-1/#comment-1576 SE fanboy Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:51:44 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation.html#comment-1576 don't bother installing musicstation, its crap! don’t bother installing musicstation, its crap!

]]> By: Ben Smith http://whatleydude.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation/comment-page-1/#comment-1580 Ben Smith Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:08:22 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation.html#comment-1580 James, That certificate error looks familiar from my E61 and happens when I try to install unsigned applications. Turning this off in the App Mgr application allows things to proceed OK... Maybe VF are signing their apps with their own certificate which is only included in their firmware? Ben James,

That certificate error looks familiar from my E61 and happens when I try to install unsigned applications. Turning this off in the App Mgr application allows things to proceed OK… Maybe VF are signing their apps with their own certificate which is only included in their firmware?

Ben

]]> By: Mike http://whatleydude.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation/comment-page-1/#comment-1579 Mike Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:41:55 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation.html#comment-1579 Ah. My N95 product code is for a 3UK handset. They need to approve the V20 build first, and the Nokia SW updater won't give me the goods until they do. In the meantime, I'm stuck here knowing Mr Whatley has a faster camera than me. That *burns*..... Ah. My N95 product code is for a 3UK handset. They need to approve the V20 build first, and the Nokia SW updater won’t give me the goods until they do.

In the meantime, I’m stuck here knowing Mr Whatley has a faster camera than me. That *burns*…..

]]> By: Terence Eden http://whatleydude.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation/comment-page-1/#comment-1578 Terence Eden Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:00:22 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/12/whatley_on_wednesday_vodafones_musicstation.html#comment-1578 You can read my (fairly unbiased) thoughts on MusicStation at http://shkspr.mobi/blog/2007/12/musicstation-some-thoughts.html - now with screenshots! The firmware issue is tricky. On the one hand, everyone wants new and shiny features, on the other, it costs a lot of money to check that firmware is suitable for release to the mass market and won't destroy a user's phone. In this case, the Vodafone certified firmware contains a digital certificate which ensures that the software is only installed on a compatible handset. This makes sure that the software should run as expected and reduces the number of angry calls to customer services. Ideally, you should have seen a screen on Vodafone live! telling you that you needed the official firmware. Unfortunatley at the moment, it's quite tricky to tell the firmware of the phone via the UA* I'm sure that the Vodafone variant of V20 for the N95 will be available soon. In the mean time, why not invest in an N95 8GB ;-) Terence (Not speaking on behalf of my employer) *Yes, the irony isn't lost on me. You can read my (fairly unbiased) thoughts on MusicStation at http://shkspr.mobi/blog/2007/12/musicstation-some-thoughts.html – now with screenshots!

The firmware issue is tricky. On the one hand, everyone wants new and shiny features, on the other, it costs a lot of money to check that firmware is suitable for release to the mass market and won’t destroy a user’s phone.

In this case, the Vodafone certified firmware contains a digital certificate which ensures that the software is only installed on a compatible handset. This makes sure that the software should run as expected and reduces the number of angry calls to customer services.

Ideally, you should have seen a screen on Vodafone live! telling you that you needed the official firmware. Unfortunatley at the moment, it’s quite tricky to tell the firmware of the phone via the UA*

I’m sure that the Vodafone variant of V20 for the N95 will be available soon. In the mean time, why not invest in an N95 8GB ;-)

Terence (Not speaking on behalf of my employer)
*Yes, the irony isn’t lost on me.

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